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DSMPILOT
11-23-2007, 09:02 AM
Anyone else hear of this? http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226129&highlight=motorcycle+show+gun

Taken of SBR

An off duty, non-uniformed Leo accidently discharged his pistol near the Ducati booth.
Apparently he had a pistol tucked into his pants, no holster, round chambered and safety off.
(how many mistakes do you count so far)
Anyway, somehow the gun discharged (while still tucked into his pants) and shot a round into/onto the cement floor.
The bullet didn't hit the gun carrier (LEO) or anybody else.
The person was promptly escorted from the building.

tilbury007
11-23-2007, 09:10 AM
wow, interesting:corn

R1Lover
11-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Whoops :lol

Snair
11-23-2007, 09:20 AM
what a tard

KWComp
11-23-2007, 09:25 AM
Maybe he got really excited looking at the new Duc's? :dunno

:lmao

fjorn
11-23-2007, 10:08 AM
Someone needs to take that dipshit and put him through remedial firearms safety.

Snair
11-23-2007, 10:10 AM
Someone needs to take that dipshit and put him through remedial firearms safety.haha nope just take it away from him

fjorn
11-23-2007, 10:17 AM
haha nope just take it away from him

I was being nice to him though.

Kmac
11-23-2007, 10:19 AM
Someone needs to take that dipshit and put him through remedial firearms safety.

If he's a LEO, he's already been through it. He needs a good dose of (more) public humiliation and to have his right to carry a gun stripped. What a tard.

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:22 AM
Guys, accidents happen, no? :dunno

fjorn
11-23-2007, 10:25 AM
Guys, accidents happen, no? :dunno

He's a law enforcement officer. He should have known better than to carry a handgun unholstered, off safety and loaded. No accident about this incident at all.

If he's a LEO, he's already been through it. He needs a good dose of (more) public humiliation and to have his right to carry a gun stripped. What a tard.

Correct. Again, I was being nice to the guy.

pepple4
11-23-2007, 10:26 AM
:no

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:32 AM
He's a law enforcement officer. He should have known better than to carry a handgun unholstered, off safety and loaded. No accident about this incident at all.

My point was, any professional can have accidents... I mean we have seen MotoGP rider dropping their bike in the pit lane or F1 driver run over a pit crew...

Anyway, my knowledge in guns or guns safety is almost none, so maybe you guys are right...

:)

Kmac
11-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Guys, accidents happen, no? :dunno

would you think the same if it had hit your kid?

My point was, any professional can have accidents... I mean we have seen MotoGP rider dropping their bike in the pit lane or F1 driver run over a pit crew...

Anyway, my knowledge in guns or guns safety is almost none, so maybe you guys are right...

:)

those examples are in controlled areas, PLUS they happen in the course of their "job". If the LEO was in a situation where he was performing his duties and an accident happened, it would be more understandable.........not necessarily acceptable, but more understandable. This jagoff was at a motorcycle show with a loaded gun, carried entirely unsafely, and it went off. No excuse.

fjorn
11-23-2007, 10:41 AM
My point was, any professional can have accidents... I mean we have seen MotoGP rider dropping their bike in the pit lane or F1 driver run over a pit crew...

Anyway, my knowledge in guns or guns safety is almost none, so maybe you guys are right...

:)

Think of it this way:

An off duty officer drives 100MPH down a residential area where kids are playing.

Accident or no?

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:41 AM
would you think the same if it had hit your kid?

Why do you guys always jump to conclusion by making examples that related to the person? Of course I'd be extremely pissed if it hit my own kid, who wouldn't? But this wasn't my point, basically what you're saying is accident never happens... last time I check the news, I see so many accidents by professionals that "shouldn't" have happened... but the fact is, accidents do happen... :fact

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:44 AM
Think of it this way:

An off duty officer drives 100MPH down a residential area where kids are playing.

Accident or no?

Anyway, like I said, I don't know much about guns safety... :)

Snair
11-23-2007, 10:49 AM
val, in every police or military organisation that carries guns a huge amount of time is spent on gun safety issues. always, always, always be safe. if he was carrying his out of a holster, he was wrong. period. hahah

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:51 AM
This jagoff was at a motorcycle show with a loaded gun, carried entirely unsafely, and it went off. No excuse.

Yes that's no excuse...

What I was thinking was, since he's a pro, maybe he thought the safety lock was on, but then he shouldn't carried it without the holster...

This type of mistake, I assume he's probably someone with a lot of experiences, people with experience always seem to skip a few steps because they automatically think they know what they're doing...

Biga
11-23-2007, 10:52 AM
Anyway, like I said, I don't know much about a** safety... :)


:eek


TMI

Biga
11-23-2007, 10:53 AM
Anyone else hear of this? http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226129&highlight=motorcycle+show+gun


Good thing he did not shoot anything personal of himself :lol

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:54 AM
val, in every police or military organisation that carries guns a huge amount of time is spent on gun safety issues. always, always, always be safe. if he was carrying his out of a holster, he was wrong. period. hahah

Check my last reply to Kmac... ;)

fjorn
11-23-2007, 10:54 AM
Why do you guys always jump to conclusion by making examples that related to the person? Of course I'd be extremely pissed if it hit my own kid, who wouldn't? But this wasn't my point, basically what you're saying is accident never happens... last time I check the news, I see so many accidents by professionals that "shouldn't" have happened... but the fact is, accidents do happen... :fact

Accidents do happen, but his situation was not accidental by any means.

valerossi
11-23-2007, 10:55 AM
Accidents do happen, but his situation was not accidental by any means.

Yes, I stand corrected. :)

fjorn
11-23-2007, 10:56 AM
Yes, I stand corrected. :)

:lol

Snair
11-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Check my last reply to Kmac... ;)haha good to go val. i wasnt being bad

valerossi
11-23-2007, 11:01 AM
:lol

:crash

haha good to go val. i wasnt being bad

I wasn't either... :mrgreen

Kmac
11-23-2007, 11:17 AM
Yes that's no excuse...

What I was thinking was, since he's a pro, maybe he thought the safety lock was on, but then he shouldn't carried it without the holster...

This type of mistake, I assume he's probably someone with a lot of experiences, people with experience always seem to skip a few steps because they automatically think they know what they're doing...


I see what you're saying, but a professional makes sure he doesn't have unnecessary accidents. The last professional you want skipping steps is a surgeon, or a pilot. NOBODY forgives those accidents.

valerossi
11-23-2007, 11:23 AM
...The last professional you want skipping steps is a surgeon, or a pilot.

That's true... :whiteflag :lol

HornetR1
11-23-2007, 07:31 PM
eh...i say shit happens....at least nobody was hit with the round, i agree though that he should have been practicing more firarm safety with it. that is his responsibility though.

R1 MASTER
11-23-2007, 08:53 PM
Not to run it in the ground, but like previously stated, this was not an accident that happened under fire, or during a physical confrontation. Just stupidity from a lack of safety and responsibility stand point. That is the reason the LEO usually have high retention holsters, and duty guns usually have higher than normal trigger springs. The whole I idea is to not have AD.


Ride safe.

!Ron
11-23-2007, 08:55 PM
we all know there are stupid people on this earth, like the ones who carry loaded guns to a motorcycle convention as if someone will actually run up on the place and hold everyone hostage. what would of been more interesting is if the accidental discharge actually hit someone.

macattack
11-24-2007, 02:27 AM
I read the whole thread and someone said he talked to the local leo office and it was a case of a holstered weapon discharge or weapon fell out of a holster------------------------ my point---> there was no factual info


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS9JiPSXwwc

fjorn
11-24-2007, 05:16 AM
I read the whole thread and someone said he talked to the local leo office and it was a case of a holstered weapon discharge or weapon fell out of a holster------------------------ my point---> there was no factual info


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS9JiPSXwwc

Are you referring to the school shooting, or the Bike show?

If it's the bike show, reread the post at the bottom of page 6. There's a post from m0t0_ryder, that has a link to an eyewitness.

Link to another forum with more detailed info:
Clicky (http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14496)

Of course, then there is the person GTS1998 who claims to know someone from the jurisdiction who says the person was a retired sheriff's deputy.

Either way, something needs to be done to him.

macattack
11-24-2007, 06:53 AM
sorry Fjorn I posted the link to the dea agent shooting himself in the foot i had not seen it before.
in referance to the shooting in the bike show :I was saying I couldnt find any documented proof of what happened so how can we sit around and argue about somthing without knowing exactly what happened. maybe the guy wasnt even a cop maybe he was the son of a cop and the cop knew him or maybe the gun fell out of his holster and it was a sig that bumpfired...etc.

J Dollaz
11-24-2007, 07:27 AM
Thats Pretty Fkn Funny!

Ronin
11-25-2007, 10:56 AM
Why do you guys always jump to conclusion by making examples that related to the person? Of course I'd be extremely pissed if it hit my own kid, who wouldn't? But this wasn't my point, basically what you're saying is accident never happens... last time I check the news, I see so many accidents by professionals that "shouldn't" have happened... but the fact is, accidents do happen... :fact

There is no such thing as accidents involving guns, only negligence.

Snair
11-25-2007, 10:58 AM
:imwst

valerossi
11-25-2007, 11:18 AM
There is no such thing as accidents involving guns, only negligence.

Yes, I stand corrected. :)

:r1lover