Vista sucks BIG FLOPPY DONKEY DICK!

I won't buy a new PC or Laptop unless I can get it built with XP.

Vista sucks BIG FLOPPY DONKEY DICK!

I won't buy a new PC or Laptop unless I can get it built with XP.

That's only because you have never used a PC with Vista that is properly setup... Vista kicks ass when it's done right.

and I can't believe I'm the only one using vista.... lol post up foo's

Vista sucks BIG FLOPPY DONKEY DICK!

Sounds like somebody got some pretty bad experience... :lol

Got Vista on a couple of new work laptops here, and it's the biggest joke I've ever seen.

It takes forever to start up, brand new Dell laptops that are still in their factory state and they are slow as hell.

Microsoft are pure crap but how they can just declare this product ready to be sold is beyond me, it's absolute poo.

I'll have Mac OS any day, but because we have to have Microsoft shits to run the programs I'm stuck with it. Glad I'm still using XP because I'd shoot myself if I had to put up with Vista.

Here now you guys can bash vista in your own thread.... :lmao

I'l telling you that if you have it setup properly with the correct hardware it's pretty nice, yes it still has a few bugs that they need to work on but that will come in time.

You guys are killing me....I need to replace my current laptop after the holidays and I was convinced I was going vista, now I am not so sure. I cant afford any down time, I live out of my laptop.

...I live out of my laptop.

I can see that... :lol

Here now you guys can bash vista in your own thread.... :lmao

I'l telling you that if you have it setup properly with the correct hardware it's pretty nice, yes it still has a few bugs that they need to work on but that will come in time.

Maybe so, but we got some brand new Dell laptops, and they are so unbelievably slow at start up by the time it's started up it's christmas 2009 already.

And overal it just doesn't seem to run well at all. We have the older model still with XP and it absoloutely kicks its ass. Even fully loaded with all the programs I've rammed on it.
And a factory fresh Dell with Vista is running like turd. I wish I could be more positive about it but I've handled about 30 computers now with Vista, from home to Ultimate and they all sucked. Machines with Ultimate btw were definently better. I don't know why but it seems they wanted to punish everyone that got a different version of Vista than Ultimate.

:nowhine

I can see that... :lol

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That's only because you have never used a PC with Vista that is properly setup... Vista kicks ass when it's done right.

and I can't believe I'm the only one using vista.... lol post up foo's

I put Vista on Candace's computer (5.2 rating)...

Linux is much nicer IMO. If i want all of the fancy effects (which I don't really care about) I can boot into Gnome w/ Compiz-Fusion...

Maybe so, but we got some brand new Dell laptops, and they are so unbelievably slow at start up by the time it's started up it's christmas 2009 already.

And overal it just doesn't seem to run well at all. We have the older model still with XP and it absoloutely kicks its ass. Even fully loaded with all the programs I've rammed on it.
And a factory fresh Dell with Vista is running like turd. I wish I could be more positive about it but I've handled about 30 computers now with Vista, from home to Ultimate and they all sucked. Machines with Ultimate btw were definently better. I don't know why but it seems they wanted to punish everyone that got a different version of Vista than Ultimate.

:nowhine

I can buy a dell laptop for 500 bucks.... that doens't mean it's a good computer... really the lower end dell stuff is crap... lol

With that said I'm also running Vista Ult on a 3 year old dell box as well with no issues other then needing a new sound card.

I do see your point though and you are not alone for sure, there are many people that hate it as well.

R1Lover, How well do you think Vista would run on a Inspiron 9400? Intel T2600 (Centrino duo @ 2.16Hhz) 2 Gig of ram, Nvidia graphics with 256mb. Maybe I ll try it on my current laptop before I commit to anything.

R1Lover, How well do you think Vista would run on a Inspiron 9400? Intel T2600 (Centrino duo @ 2.16Hhz) 2 Gig of ram, Nvidia graphics with 256mb. Maybe I ll try it on my current laptop before I commit to anything.

It'll run fine on that... The biggest issue with vista is that everyone was buying it for the desktop effects (translucent windows, etc) but their crappy on board video cards wouldn't run it...

I have it on my wife's computer (1 gig ram, celeron m, nvidia 7600gt) and it runs fine...

I just don't care for it... resource hog...

That's only because you have never used a PC with Vista that is properly setup... Vista kicks ass when it's done right.

and I can't believe I'm the only one using vista.... lol post up foo's


I have Vista both on my Desktop, and laptop and love the OS.


However if you are using a Vic20 motherboard then of course it will not work properly. :r1lover :lol

I can buy a dell laptop for 500 bucks.... that doens't mean it's a good computer... really the lower end dell stuff is crap... lol

With that said I'm also running Vista Ult on a 3 year old dell box as well with no issues other then needing a new sound card.

I do see your point though and you are not alone for sure, there are many people that hate it as well.

They weren't 500 buck laptops I'll tell you that, they go here for just over a grand. So that would over 1500 dollars.

Not low end at all.

I've been told by a few of the computer tech guys that Ultimate is the only way to go when it comes to Vista. Tonnes more stable than the other versions.
I had to install some stuff on a laptop the other day with the Home version on it and before I could actually open the CD the computer froze when I hit the start button.
Second time that computer had ever been started. Gotta love new technology :rofl

I can buy a dell laptop for 500 bucks.... that doens't mean it's a good computer... really the lower end dell stuff is crap... lol


Agreed, you get what you pay for ;)

I've been told by a few of the computer tech guys that Ultimate is the only way to go when it comes to Vista. Tonnes more stable than the other versions.



Ultimate is what I run also on both computer. :yes

Isnt Ultimate 64bit though? Are there any issues with running that on just any computer?

^ 32

Is there a 64 bit Vista Version??

^ Not that I'm familiar with ;)

Isnt Ultimate 64bit though? Are there any issues with running that on just any computer?

You cna get both 32 and 64 bit versions...


As for running on on those specs above, yes it should be fine, the key is making sure there are drivers for your hardware.

The older dell I'm running it on is a pent 4 3.0 ghz with 1gb of ram... and it performs very well. It has a performance rating of 4.1 though compared to the 5.6 I have on the big system. It still runs fine though for normal use, web, e-mail etc... that's all my wife does anyway.

Hmm, Maybe Ill try that, kind of an expensive purchase though. Damn technology and its ever evolving BS. :lmao

Is there a 64 bit Vista Version??

Yes, Vista was designed for 64, but will also support 32... ;)

Although some people claimed the 32 version is more stable... maybe SP1 will fix this issue... :corn

maybe SP1 will fix this issue... :corn

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Vista SP1 is said to be a longhorn conversion for vista.... It has been mentioned that it will be more like anew OS then an update.... time will tell though.

Maybe they will get it right in the future. Windows 98 didn't run for shite the first go round either..

Visat is garbage. Its the new Windows ME all over again. I am waiting this wave out. They will "patch" it soon and it will be worth having i guess. Just not yet. I jsut got a new LT, Quad Core CPU, 4GB Ram, NVidia Quadro video card...all the toys and yes you guessed it WINDOWS XP BITCHES!

^ Well not everyone likes to move forward. :r1lover

Visat is garbage. Its the new Windows ME all over again. I am waiting this wave out. They will "patch" it soon and it will be worth having i guess. Just not yet. I jsut got a new LT, Quad Core CPU, 4GB Ram, NVidia Quadro video card...all the toys and yes you guessed it WINDOWS XP BITCHES!

Vista is actually a pretty good OS... :yes

I wouldn't call it the new Windows ME all over again. Windows ME was the last batch of Windows 98, which it's based on the 98 kernel/OS. However, Vista is completely new using a completely different kernel and architecture from XP... :)

Bullshit! I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. I was one of the orrigional beta testers of Vista and Server 08, and I can tell you first hand it is not a step forward. Its pretty and cartoony looking, but no real improvement, especially in a corporate invironment. IMO, this is one of those upgrades that never should have happened. But on the flip side, Vista is the best thing that ever happend to Apple ;)

Bullshit! I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. I was one of the orrigional beta testers of Vista and Server 08, and I can tell you first hand it is not a step forward. Its pretty and cartoony looking, but no real improvement, especially in a corporate invironment. IMO, this is one of those upgrades that never should have happened. But on the flip side, Vista is the best thing that ever happend to Apple ;)

Bullshit and not a step foward? I'm guessing the hardware you have couldn't use it to the full potential... :poke During the time when the Beta came out, I can tell you most of the hardware out there are still not really designed for Vista. Even the new PCs you buy today, those lower-end models that comes with Vista, the hardware aren't really designed to use full potential of Vista either.

Bullshit and not a step foward? I'm guessing the hardware you have couldn't use it to the full potential... :poke During the time when the Beta came out, I can tell you most of the hardware out there are still not really designed for Vista. Even the new PCs you buy today, those lower-end models that comes with Vista, the hardware aren't really designed to use full potential of Vista either.

I have to agree with you there. HW designers are really behind on this one. But I am talking about some of the basic shit with Vista now like trying to install a program: Click button "are you sure you want to do that?" Click yes, "are you sure you meant to click yest?" Click yes, "I do not think that you are smart enough to under stand my last question, so Ill ask it slower: Are You Sure You Want To Do That?" Ahhh forget it, Click Cancel, "see told you so"... Then it laughs at you.:lol

I have to agree with you there. HW designers are really behind on this one. But I am talking about some of the basic shit with Vista now like trying to install a program: Click button "are you sure you want to do that?" Click yes, "are you sure you meant to click yest?" Click yes, "I do not think that you are smart enough to under stand my last question, so Ill ask it slower: Are You Sure You Want To Do That?" Ahhh forget it, Click Cancel, "see told you so"... Then it laughs at you.:lol

I guess it's an extra security measure since people has been installing crap all the time... :lol Kind of like XP's DEP (Data Execution Prevention)... there is probably a way to turn that off or make it less sensitive like in XP... :)

If you are using the administrator status, you wont get those annoying pop-ups.


That constant pop-ups was designed for people that are not completely computer literate.

If you are using the administrator status, you wont get those annoying pop-ups.

I didn't realize you where super computer literate biga.

I didn't realize you where super computer literate biga.

He has learned a bunch about vista in the last few months.... lol not all fun but he has been learning... lol

Biga should be an expert with Nero now... :crash

well knowing only 1 OS isn't really a good thing for judging it vs others.

So when is SP1 supposed to come out...A quick google search turned up the second half of 2007, but thats just about over. Anyone know a specific date when it will start shipping on new systems, or available to download?

I heard the first quarter of 08, but I'm not 100% as they aren't either... lol

I didn't realize you where super computer literate biga.

I'm not Super Literate, but since both my computer run Vista Ultimate, I learned. The first two months were not very pleasant, but I got the bugs I had with my systems sorted out.

He has learned a bunch about vista in the last few months.... lol not all fun but he has been learning... lol

True that :)



Biga should be an expert with Nero now... :crash

I cannot stand that software :nono


But I almost fell of my chair laughing at you comment :lol

So when is SP1 supposed to come out...A quick Google search turned up the second half of 2007, but that's just about over. Anyone know a specific date when it will start shipping on new systems, or available to download?

SP1 beta version is being tested, that last I heard, it is due to arrive February. 08 ;)

and I can't believe I'm the only one using vista.... lol post up foo's


No you're not. I have Vista Buisness 32-bit running on my Thinkpad X60 tablet :mock


I'm still fine tuning it though. Performance is okay, but has some minor quirks.

Laptops are NOT ready for Vista regardless of what anyone says. so far the highest "vista score" ive seen on a vista laptop was 3.9 and it was with a 8800 card. i was like WTF!?

Laptops are NOT ready for Vista regardless of what anyone says. so far the highest "vista score" ive seen on a vista laptop was 3.9 and it was with a 8800 card. i was like WTF!?

Yep, just the HD alone is a major bottleneck... :hung

Once SSD HD gets more popular, it should be much better then... :yes

vista doesn't seem bad at all.i just got it set up and started using it on my new hp touch smart pc. i just bought a few hours ago:rock:crash

Sweet another one..... :)

:yes getting used to it right now

"User Hate it, IT Pro's Dispise It" -Unknown-

"User Hate it, IT Pro's Dispise It" -Unknown-

Not all of us. ;)

I do have to ad that I do not use Vista at the office, there are too many issues with compatibility, for the home for single pc it's awesome. Cougar and server 08 will resolve this though, or at least that's the plan.

Laptops are NOT ready for Vista regardless of what anyone says. so far the highest "vista score" ive seen on a vista laptop was 3.9 and it was with a 8800 card. i was like WTF!?

What about a laptop running Dual Graphics Cards? :mrgreen

What about a laptop running Dual Graphics Cards? :mrgreen
You need to start sharing your wealth!! :mrgreen:mock

You need to start sharing your debt!! :mrgreen:mock

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I dont have it yet....I tll be months or close to a year before I pull the trigger on a new laptop. I am just getting into the research phase, I have endless weeks of driving my self crazy with research and indecision yet. :lmao

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I dont have it yet....I tll be months or close to a year before I pull the trigger on a new laptop. I am just getting into the research phase, I have endless weeks of driving my self crazy with research and indecision yet. :lmao

When I was in the market for a laptop, I was considering Sager (http://www.sagernotebook.com/default.php). However, because I want ultra-portability, they didn't meet my requirements. But, if you're looking for a decent system, this might be an option for you.

I've played around on a couple & setup a couple Vista machines, both laptop & desktop, and it absolutely sucked on both, even with 2gb of ram. Unbelievable slow bootup & shutdown, resource hog and just not as user friendly or as stable as XP :mad :yes


might have something to do with why I jumped ship on Microsoft . . . give me Mac Leopard :muahaha

When I was in the market for a laptop, I was considering Sager (http://www.sagernotebook.com/default.php). However, because I want ultra-portability, they didn't meet my requirements. But, if you're looking for a decent system, this might be an option for you.


:thumbup, never heard of them but they have some awesome looking equipment. Thank you FJ!

Vista was the best thing that ever happend to Apple. Mapple sales have skyrocketed since the release of Vista.

I just dont have the extra cash laying around to try and beef up my personal machine enough to make Vista less painful. I would rather spend that extra money on my Bike...errrrrrr I mean kids Xmas prestents Hehehehe.

What about a laptop running Dual Graphics Cards? :mrgreen

there is a reason why laptops are small :lol

For those of you who are "jumping ship" to Mac and think you're getting a better deal. Think again. Mac has had some pretty major security flaws along with some of the more recent screw ups in software history. Go here (http://www.us-cert.gov/current) to read about some of the recent security flaws. Most on that page are products released by Apple.

In essence, you are buying an x86 architecture system that Mac puts together and charges a shit load of money for. They won't support Mac OS running on anything OTHER THAN their own proprietary hardware.

You're better off downloading and running one of the more user-friendly Linux distros on your current x86 architecture than you are to dump your current system and spend much more money on a Mac. Learning curve will be about the same. ;)

This crap gives me a headache!! :(

My Vista Expired itself! :mad

*my fault though for not entering the Product Key within 30 days!
Now i'm waiting on a restore disk from HP for like 3 weeks already!

J, if you have a computer you bought with Windows installed on it already, you should be able to register the product key that's on the Windows sticker attached to the system itself. It's usually on the bottom of the laptops, or sides/back/top of desktops.

J, if you have a computer you bought with Windows installed on it already, you should be able to register the product key that's on the Windows sticker attached to the system itself. It's usually on the bottom of the laptops, or sides/back/top of desktops.

I know, Me being the Burnout you all know me as!
i completely put it off untill it was too late! then i really messed up! Heres what happened!

the Comp came with it installed, but just the basic version!
and it came w/ a free upgrade disk. B4 i put the original Prod. key (from the side) into the PC, i uprgraded to HOme PRemium!

Now the 30 days comes around and it tells me to enter the Key # before its too late! so i did, however it did not match the new (home premium) version of vista that was currently the operating system!

So now my Computer is a $1100 Piece of shyt sitting on a Comp desk! :mad

and i can only post from work!;)

Didn't you do that longer than three weeks ago? I remember reading about that a while ago on the R1-F. :dunno

Yeah , but i was too lazy to figure out the solution!
Finally Called HP, and they said They had to send me a restore disk!

*When i first posted it, the Computer still let me open up Internet Explorer Only,
So i wasnt really in a rush to get it fixxed , cuz i only use it for the WEB.

But about a month ago, it completely Turned off, and wont let me open anything!
and it goes to that Safety mode screen, like if the power was lost the last time i had it on. and it wont re-start in any Mode.....

Go into the bios and change the date on the computer... to a month ago... :) :lmao

I'll try it later thanx! :mrgreen

Go into the bios and change the date on the computer... to a month ago... :) :lmao


now that was funny :rofl

now that was funny :rofl

:lmao it does work though.... :)

*cough*cough* :stir

from /. (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/0643230):

Computerworld is reporting that Windows XP Service Pack 3 runs MS Office 10% faster than XP SP2 (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9048658&source=rss_news50) — and is 'considerably faster' than Vista SP1. XP SP3 isn't scheduled to be released until next year, but testers at Devil Mountain Software — the same company which found Vista SP 1 to be hardly any faster than the debut version (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/1710245&tid=109) of Vista — were able to run some benchmarking tests on a release candidate of XP SP3, says the report. While this may be great news for XP owners, it is a problem for Microsoft, which is having trouble convincing business users to migrate to Vista (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9046942).

*cough*cough* :stir

from /. (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/0643230):

No comment...

Actually, I do have a comment: That report came out a while back, and Vista still hasn't stepped up its game. Its like the Mapple IPhone, A certain type of consumer will buy it...that's who it is marketed to.

*cough*cough* :stir

from /. (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/0643230):

Good Info Shawn but damnit....I was wanting to upgrade to Vista but not at the expense of performance. :mad

vista's only advantage over XP is Direct X10/.1 other than that the OS is practically junk. im so glad i switched over to OSX in 2003

I'm still happy with Windows 98.

Nothing beats Windows for Workgroups...



Accept OS/2 Warp

I'm still happy with Windows 98.

3.11 was my favorite, i remember "exiting" to DOS to play wolfenstein and doom. those were good times.