he's not happy:nono

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63794



they do need to pull their fingers out:yes

Isn't this all just a rehash of what he said when he was racing Hondas?

Isn't this all just a rehash of what he said when he was racing Hondas?

Not really, he was at least winning then wasn't he...

Here's something interesting:

Rossi on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentino_Rossi)

In his autobiography "What If I Had Never Tried It", Rossi makes a number of claims about the reasons for his rivalry with Biaggi, and some of the incidents which led to its escalation.

Rossi largely blames the media and their desire to publicise a rivalry between the pair for the eventual severity of the rivalry. Any quotes that the media got out of the pair were twisted and made to seem far more serious and insulting than they had been meant. Rossi also says that he is simply too honest. He had merely disagreed with the claims Biaggi made about why he wasn't winning races - Biaggi blamed the bike, the tyres, the engine, and Rossi felt that Biaggi should have accepted that sometimes he was the one at fault. They simply have very different outlooks on motorcycle racing, dealing with the media, and life in general.

Rossi might be a good racer, but to me he's become very much of a spoiled and whiny little piss-ant bitch.

"I will speak to the (Yamaha) Japanese guys, but I'm Valentino Rossi so it doesn't feel right that I should race with the slowest bike that breaks down too. We've seen today Pedrosa and Honda, so if we don't make a move the tyres are not enough.
"We could have done without this, because I deserved to get three or four points and get second. For sure it wasn't me losing second place but it was lost by Yamaha."


WTF - That is quite possibly the worst interview I have ever read with Rossi. I am a Yamaha fan for sure, but WTF is Rossi thinking....theres no I in Team, he needs to get his head out of his ass.

I am a Yamaha fan for sure, but WTF is Rossi thinking....theres no I in Team, he needs to get his head out of his ass.

Rossi has worn out his welcome with Yamaha as well. When is his contract up?

Rossi has worn out his welcome with Yamaha as well. When is his contract up?


end of 2008:moped

The bike needs work, but it seems Rossi is not as motivated as he was previously was.

Of course having several championships and a season of poor bike performance will tend to make a person lose motivation IMO.


Ride safe.

maybe he's been reading some of his own fan sites so much that he actually believes that whenever he does good, it's because of him, but if he does bad, it's the bike / tires / engine / someone else is faster and must be running an illegal bike , line of poo poo.

brivio says sorry to rossi:mock
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63801

I'd laugh to find out that Stoner let Dani win it to help push Rossi to 3rd.

:lmao that would be pretty funny huh.... :lmao you have a good point there, but you could clearly see that dani flew past stoner on that straight... :)

brivio says sorry to rossi:mock
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63801

Text from that link

Yamaha boss Davide Brivio has apologised to Valentino Rossi for the Japanese manufacturers' poor 2007 MotoGP season.
Yamaha were no match for rivals Ducati for most of the season, and the Italian marque's rider Casey Stoner dominated the championship with 10 victories.
Rossi, who only needed one point in the season finale at Valencia to secure the runner-up spot, went on to finish in third place in the championship after retiring with a mechanical problem from Sunday's race.
The Italian's exit, together with Honda's Dani Pedrosa victory, left the seven-time champion in his worst championship position since 1997.
Rossi, who raced with a broken hand at Valencia following a crash on Saturday, was furious with Yamaha after the race.
Brivio apologised to the Italian and admitted the team will have to work hard during the winter.
"We must apologize to Valentino," Brivio told Gazzetta dello Sport. "Throughout the season we have always analyzed the season in a clear-headed way.
"It's obvious that in 2007 we've had problems with the performance of the engine and tyres. All of this can, in fact must, become a stimulus for our engineers.
"During the year we were unable to quickly improve the performance of the engine. We have a big job to do at home during the winter.
"To have Valentino Rossi in the team puts enormous pressure on us, and to support him we must put the maximum effort in. We did not hide behind Michelin problems, even when we could have done so."

Oh......how the mighty have fallen.

The Valentino era is over. :fact

I won't go that far..... Next year will be the real test imo.... if he fails to be up top then I would agree.

Here's something interesting:
He had merely disagreed with the claims Biaggi made about why he wasn't winning races - Biaggi blamed the bike, the tyres, the engine, and Rossi felt that Biaggi should have accepted that sometimes he was the one at fault.


That is some bad karma :lmao

i would say i'm with rossi on this that yamaha really sucked it up with the bike, but so did hte tire company. I think rossi should accept some of the blame though, but for sure it looks like yamaha and rossi will be parting ways as soon as they can.

gotta remember when rossi went to yamaha...slowest bike and honda was dominating. but even with that he won. so i too think maybe he doesnt have drive sometimes. tho with broke motors and such, i can see how it would get u down and worry about riding bike past limit, it break and not finish race. hes smart, he doesnt like to loose. if yamaha gives him little hope with bike next year, i see him tearing it up and winning some races. tho that damn Duc may not let him win much.

tho with broke motors and such, i can see how it would get u down and worry about riding bike past limit, it break and not finish race.

Maybe if he'd worry about his job as a rider, and not about doing the bike/tire engineers jobs, he wouldn't have these problems :shrug

I won't go that far..... Next year will be the real test imo.... if he fails to be up top then I would agree.

i'm just talking about what people think about him....

he was always the "happy go lucky" fun guy in the pits, always laughing in the face of adversity and basically carrying on like he didn't have a care in the world. people loved him, he loved his fans, everything was right in the world.

then things get a little tough.

the whining and finger-pointing is going to lose him support, fans, and possibly another chance at the title.

I want to see him win it again.. and many more times. He's gotta keep winning it into his 30's to undo the damage that he's done to the "age of champions" chart.

Thing though is that it will be very apparent that a lot of his hordes of fans are/were there for the fair weather.

i'm a fan of his, but firehawk is right...he needs to get back to being himself and he can't always be that happy go lucky guy only when he's winning. At least I would hope not...

Here's something interesting:

Rossi on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentino_Rossi)

In his autobiography "What If I Had Never Tried It", Rossi makes a number of claims about the reasons for his rivalry with Biaggi, and some of the incidents which led to its escalation.

Rossi largely blames the media and their desire to publicise a rivalry between the pair for the eventual severity of the rivalry. Any quotes that the media got out of the pair were twisted and made to seem far more serious and insulting than they had been meant. Rossi also says that he is simply too honest. He had merely disagreed with the claims Biaggi made about why he wasn't winning races - Biaggi blamed the bike, the tyres, the engine, and Rossi felt that Biaggi should have accepted that sometimes he was the one at fault. They simply have very different outlooks on motorcycle racing, dealing with the media, and life in general.

Rossi might be a good racer, but to me he's become very much of a spoiled and whiny little piss-ant bitch.

He's become very much of a spoiled and whiny little piss-ant bitch? Maybe he's been complaining a bit lately, but the difference between his situation and Biaggi's is that, when they both have the perfect package, at least Rossi was able to deliver... :fact

maybe he's been reading some of his own fan sites so much that he actually believes that whenever he does good, it's because of him, but if he does bad, it's the bike / tires / engine / someone else is faster and must be running an illegal bike , line of poo poo.

Line of poo poo? So the M1 broke down with 10 laps to go was all his fault? Guess 5 consecutive titles on 2 different manufacturers aren't enough to prove a point to some people.

That is some bad karma :lmao

Sometimes I don't understand you guys, when Rossi was winning, you guys cheer on him, and when he's not winning, you guys turn around and step on him? :whiteflag

P.S. Your sig is no good anymore... :fawkdance :fawkdance

He's become very much of a spoiled and whiny little piss-ant bitch? Maybe he's been complaining a bit lately, but the difference between his situation and Biaggi's is that, when they both have the perfect package, at least Rossi was able to deliver... :fact

True, Rossi has wins compared to Biaggi. But, I was posting it up as a statement that his words have come back to haunt him. His interviews are pretty harsh on Yamaha, Michelin, etc., and nothing about any of his failures. His statement of riding with a broken hand? Tell me, do you honestly think that has absolutely nothing to do with his performance on a bike?

Line of poo poo? So the M1 broke down with 10 laps to go was all his fault? Guess 5 consecutive titles on 2 different manufacturers aren't enough to prove a point to some people.

It's all part of the competition. Rider, bike, mechanics and support team. Races are not won only by one of the three. Yet, he's acting as if he is the ONLY reason why they do so sell. Ever follow MX racing? Riders win, lose and DNF quite often throughout the season. Carmichael included, who's considered the "Greatest Of All Time".

Sometimes I don't understand you guys, when Rossi was winning, you guys cheer on him, and when he's not winning, you guys turn around and step on him? :whiteflag

Val, I've never been a fan of his. Actually, I don't think I'm a fan of any racer to be honest. The thing that I don't like about Rossi is that he's all about himself. I can't think of an interview of his where he's said that his poor performance is his fault. His typical statements are "I'm multi-time world champion, I deserve to win." So what. No one deserves to win. You have to earn it, not be handed to you.

He really started bitching once Michelin was no longer able to specially make tires and fly them to his races. Also, this is the first year for the 800cc bikes isn't it? If so, there's bound to be problems. He needs to be patient while things are worked out. Although, I bet he's secretly kicking himself in the ass now because he didn't go to Ducati.

The ONLY reason why he's able to make those statements is because of who he is. Any other racer would've lost their rides, team, and more importantly, sponsors and fans.

True, Rossi has wins compared to Biaggi. But, I was posting it up as a statement that his words have come back to haunt him. His interviews are pretty harsh on Yamaha, Michelin, etc., and nothing about any of his failures. His statement of riding with a broken hand? Tell me, do you honestly think that has absolutely nothing to do with his performance on a bike?

About his words come back to haunt him, imo I do not see it as the same as you do. The problem with Biaggi is, even when he got the best package on the field, he was still complaining. I don't remember hearing Rossi complaining much when the bike/tire are being competitive. Not 100% sure about what you mean, but of course I do not think his broken has nothing to do with his performance on a bike. He knew very well he will not be at the front, all he wanted was 1 single point and I think a 15th place would secure that 1 point for him. I think he's just very upset that the bike broke down with 10 laps to go.

It's all part of the competition. Rider, bike, mechanics and support team. Races are not won only by one of the three. Yet, he's acting as if he is the ONLY reason why they do so sell. Ever follow MX racing? Riders win, lose and DNF quite often throughout the season. Carmichael included, who's considered the "Greatest Of All Time".

I know what you mean, and I agree that in racer it's everything together, not just one of them. But I think the reason why he thinks he's very important in the formula is because there is no one else is putting the M1 on top of the podium yet, while you can see Satellite Hondas are able to get on top of the podium.

Val, I've never been a fan of his. Actually, I don't think I'm a fan of any racer to be honest. The thing that I don't like about Rossi is that he's all about himself. I can't think of an interview of his where he's said that his poor performance is his fault. His typical statements are "I'm multi-time world champion, I deserve to win." So what. No one deserves to win. You have to earn it, not be handed to you.

He really started bitching once Michelin was no longer able to specially make tires and fly them to his races. Also, this is the first year for the 800cc bikes isn't it? If so, there's bound to be problems. He needs to be patient while things are worked out. Although, I bet he's secretly kicking himself in the ass now because he didn't go to Ducati.

The ONLY reason why he's able to make those statements is because of who he is. Any other racer would've lost their rides, team, and more importantly, sponsors and fans.

Actually, my statement was more referred to Biga, since he was cheering on Rossi last year. And about his interviews, in his shoes I think it's hard to blame himself when he hasn't really been off the podium from 2000-2005, even in 2006 he got on the podium 10 times. He actually does admit he got beat in interviews when other riders out rode him though.

:)

somebody wanna show me an interview where he says Pedrosa outrode him on the same tires?

know what?

you all can compare whomever to whomever. who whines more and why.....whatever.

i've said this before, but everyone loves to cap on nicky. he got handed a SHIT SANDWICH by HRC, and dealt with it better than any champion i've ever seen. he knew things weren't right, but he didn't "threaten" to leave HRC if they didn't get their shit straight. All he keeps doing is looking forward to the next race and the next season. If ANYONE should be complaining, it should be him.

Nicky, no matter what you all think of him, set the example of maturity this season. To me, that puts him in a class of his own. Take what you get handed, and make the best of it. :fact

Nicky is a grass roots racer, not much else to be said other than I have no idea why people hate on him so much.

Nicky is a grass roots racer, not much else to be said other than I have no idea why people hate on him so much.

He's a golden child choirboy, and I prefer to cheer for somewhat more rebellious characters.

He HAS done a phenominal job this season tho of rolling with the punches and dealing with it.

I admire him most for where he came from and how his whole family is in the business.....kind of reminiscent of another racing family from my neighborhood, the Springsteens.

ya, that's pretty much exactly the reason I don't admire him. I'd prefer the rebellious brat that went off and did his own thing, and kicked ass at it. Like Scott Russel or Jamie James.

About his words come back to haunt him, imo I do not see it as the same as you do. The problem with Biaggi is, even when he got the best package on the field, he was still complaining. I don't remember hearing Rossi complaining much when the bike/tire are being competitive. Not 100% sure about what you mean, but of course I do not think his broken has nothing to do with his performance on a bike. He knew very well he will not be at the front, all he wanted was 1 single point and I think a 15th place would secure that 1 point for him. I think he's just very upset that the bike broke down with 10 laps to go.

Again, I'm just going off of his words. Nothing too much more than that when taken in context Val. ;)

Are you saying that his broken hand did or did not have anything to do with his performance on the bike? I think you're saying that it did, but unsure.

Unfortunately, a DNF is all part of racing. For him to expect to not have one is wrong.



I know what you mean, and I agree that in racer it's everything together, not just one of them. But I think the reason why he thinks he's very important in the formula is because there is no one else is putting the M1 on top of the podium yet, while you can see Satellite Hondas are able to get on top of the podium.

Uh, didn't Colin Edwards place very well in a few races? BTW, I noticed isn't part of the team. Also, aside from Rossi and Edwards, who else is racing the M1? I'm not familiar with all the road racing teams, so don't know. I know many teams race modified R1's such as Graves, etc.



Actually, my statement was more referred to Biga, since he was cheering on Rossi last year. And about his interviews, in his shoes I think it's hard to blame himself when he hasn't really been off the podium from 2000-2005, even in 2006 he got on the podium 10 times. He actually does admit he got beat in interviews when other riders out rode him though.

:)

If he gets on the podium, it's a result of the team. If he fails, that's a result of the team as well. That's what I'm saying. People forget that people who do phenominally well are human and make mistakes as well. Competitors can't always be "on" or do great all the time. As a former competitor myself, I know that all too well.

ya, that's pretty much exactly the reason I don't admire him. I'd prefer the rebellious brat that went off and did his own thing, and kicked ass at it. Like Scott Russel or Jamie James.

Nicky just needs to get back to his roots and race the way he learned. :fact

somebody wanna show me an interview where he says Pedrosa outrode him on the same tires?

Because until the last race, Rossi was still ahead of Pedrobot in the championship standing, so he doesn't believe Pedrobot is doing betting than him. But other races where Stoner won, he did admit Stoner out rode him, of course he didn't use the exact same words "out rode", he'd say something like "Stoner is just the better rider today".

know what?

you all can compare whomever to whomever. who whines more and why.....whatever.

i've said this before, but everyone loves to cap on nicky. he got handed a SHIT SANDWICH by HRC, and dealt with it better than any champion i've ever seen. he knew things weren't right, but he didn't "threaten" to leave HRC if they didn't get their shit straight. All he keeps doing is looking forward to the next race and the next season. If ANYONE should be complaining, it should be him.

Nicky, no matter what you all think of him, set the example of maturity this season. To me, that puts him in a class of his own. Take what you get handed, and make the best of it. :fact

Not sure why all the Nicky fans believe HRC handed Nicky a SHIT SANDWICH and use this as an excuse all the time. Like I said before, if HRC treat him so bad, why is he still willing to re-sign with them while there were other offers on the table? And sorry to be hating so much, but we all know why he didn't "threaten" to leave HRC, actually the word "didn't" isn't appropriate, it's more like "couldn't" in his situation. How can you threat to leave when you finished 6 places behind your own teammate and 3 places behind a satellite rider? Also, I think he doesn't believe he can do well on other machines.

Again, I'm just going off of his words. Nothing too much more than that when taken in context Val. ;)

Are you saying that his broken hand did or did not have anything to do with his performance on the bike? I think you're saying that it did, but unsure.

Unfortunately, a DNF is all part of racing. For him to expect to not have one is wrong.

I said it did. Like I said, he was just aiming for 1 single point, he knew very well that he will not be fighting at the front. Yes DNF is all part of racing, he never expect not to have one, whenever he crashed, he does admit he made a mistake in all his interviews, so not sure where you got the idea that he doesn't expect to have one... :dunno

Uh, didn't Colin Edwards place very well in a few races? BTW, I noticed isn't part of the team. Also, aside from Rossi and Edwards, who else is racing the M1? I'm not familiar with all the road racing teams, so don't know. I know many teams race modified R1's such as Graves, etc.

Yes Colin did place very well in a few races, but that's it, never won one yet. For 3 or 4 years now, I don't think Colin got on the podium more than 5 times. True, not many M1s on the field.

If he gets on the podium, it's a result of the team. If he fails, that's a result of the team as well. That's what I'm saying. People forget that people who do phenominally well are human and make mistakes as well. Competitors can't always be "on" or do great all the time. As a former competitor myself, I know that all too well.

fjorn, I don't know where you got the idea that Rossi doesn't believe it's a team thing. Every time Rossi won a race or got decent result, he gave credit to the team/tire all the time. And like I said, when he does make a mistake, he does admit it too. I think sometimes people/press are just taking a few bad phrases he said out of the context and just focusing on these few words and make a big deal out of it.

:)

Because until the last race, Rossi was still ahead of Pedrobot in the championship standing, so he doesn't believe Pedrobot is doing betting than him. But other races where Stoner won, he did admit Stoner out rode him, of course he didn't use the exact same words "out rode", he'd say something like "Stoner is just the better rider today".



Not sure why all the Nicky fans believe HRC handed Nicky a SHIT SANDWICH and use this as an excuse all the time. Like I said before, if HRC treat him so bad, why is he still willing to re-sign with them while there were other offers on the table? And sorry to be hating so much, but we all know why he didn't "threaten" to leave HRC, actually the word "didn't" isn't appropriate, it's more like "couldn't" in his situation. How can you threat to leave when you finished 6 places behind your own teammate and 3 places behind a satellite rider? Also, I think he doesn't believe he can do well on other machines.



I said it did. Like I said, he was just aiming for 1 single point, he knew very well that he will not be fighting at the front. Yes DNF is all part of racing, he never expect not to have one, whenever he crashed, he does admit he made a mistake in all his interviews, so not sure where you got the idea that he doesn't expect to have one... :dunno



Yes Colin did place very well in a few races, but that's it, never won one yet. For 3 or 4 years now, I don't think Colin got on the podium more than 5 times. True, not many M1s on the field.



fjorn, I don't know where you got the idea that Rossi doesn't believe it's a team thing. Every time Rossi won a race or got decent result, he gave credit to the team/tire all the time. And like I said, when he does make a mistake, he does admit it too. I think sometimes people/press are just taking a few bad phrases he said out of the context and just focusing on these few words and make a big deal out of it.

:)

:imwst

well this thread got heated...am i allowed to walk the fence on this?

Got heated? Not sure how Corey. Just saying it like we each see it is all. ;)


I just think all pro level racers and athletes forget the fact that they're given an incredible opportunity that all but a select few will ever know. Instead of pissing and moaning about how bad they have it (not enough money, bad support, bad team mates, not enough recognition, etc), they should all just STFU and appreciate what it is they have and do what they're paid to do. :)

very true fjorn...

I can see why some complain, but in the end you're right.

I just think all pro level racers and athletes forget the fact that they're given an incredible opportunity that all but a select few will ever know. Instead of pissing and moaning about how bad they have it (not enough money, bad support, bad team mates, not enough recognition, etc), they should all just STFU and appreciate what it is they have and do what they're paid to do. :)

Funny....I recall someone named Nicky Hayden making the same comment about a week ago.

All I have to say is AMEN.